INTERVIEWS (61)
INTERVIEWS
Nazem Dabbagh the representative of Kurdistan Regional Government of Iraq in Iran, mentioning that Iran have been having positive relation with Kurds, especially with ones of Iraq and always been helping them in though conditions, said to the reporter of Aftab News Agancy: it can even be said that Iran has supported Iraq; whether military or charitably. In tough conditions Iran offered us shelter, especially whatever Iran did for Kurds in Halabcheh crime will be kept in Kurds’ memory. Iran opened its border to homeless families and international reporters to come to see the bitter fact happening in Halabcheh. By Iran we could announce this criminal act of Saddam to the world followed by good reactions. He continued to mention the volume of exchanges and different borders considered to deal with Iran.
Indicating bombing in Kubaney and the death of Kurdish youths ready to help Kurds of Kubane and Syria, Dabbagh said: unfortunately this explosion left lots of hurts and martyrs, if this is no scenario on the behalf of some, has caused Turkey to realize that ISIS is a danger to them, as well. Presently we have witnessed the Turkey fighters bombed ISIS’ positions. However, unfortunately it has caused the ceasefire to be violated. For the operations of Turkish fighters on the border of the Kurdistan Region and Iraq has made riot among Kurds in Turkish cities. I advise that they should not think of war since it is not beneficial to anyone. It is necessary to mention we have to enjoy the experience of Iran and 5+1 nuclear negotiations.
The representative of KRG in Iran said the international governments should understand that ISIS is a threat to the world, humanity and civilized world and added: ISIS does not even show compassion to ancient areas. ISIS has created fear and violation on the behalf of Islam for people. I want to say that to take revenge from a country one must not use ISIS, but other tools.
Scrutinizing Haydar-Al-Ebadi’s journey, the P.M of Iraq, to America, in an Iraqi’s view can be the indicative of point being thought by Baghdad. To achieve this goal, we had a short talk with Mr. Nazem Dabbagh, the representative of KRG in Iran as followed:
Iraqi Prime Minister’s journey to the USA in Iraqi meetings is called a strategic one, in your view what important aspects can this journey have?
In current conditions Iraq needs different helps, whether politically, sociology or from the viewpoint of fighting against terrorism and ISIS. While after Iran’s agreement with 5+1, there will more opportunity to more cooperation in fighting terrorism. I am so optimistic about this journey so that Iraq can gain what it wants as it’s the least needs including consultative and military helps.
What arms helps does Iraq need?
In my opinion, first of all, Iraq needs consultative help, however, arms like fighter planes and UAVs in addition to supply armaments can help Iraq effectively.
How does America’s arms aid to Iraq help Baghdad fight ISIS?
Helps whether from America or from any other countries can cause military and logistic strength of Iraq. ISIS is not a small group but an organization calling itself Islamic Government and has created territory for itself and has many hidden forces joining this organization from all over the world. However, in my opinion, the best help can be to create to strength the interior relations among parties, tribes and Iraqi different groups in order to cause a real cooperation inside the government of the country.
following oppositions continuing for a week in Iraq, now Baghdad announces a widespread change at the top of the government structure, the act that can be said is an indication of braveness and adventurous of Mr. Haydar Al-Ebadi, Iraq P.M. Nazem Dabbagh the representative of KRG of Iraq in Iran in talk with Etemad answer the question about it as followed:
In a response to the first question Dabbagh evaluated Al-Ebadi’s act in the body of government. He said: I personally believe that any reformative change in a government is a good and positive one. Of course it should be said that this motivated act has not to be done politically but it should be the heading of the reformative act. Relating to changes at the top of the government, if there is no agreement among all political groups, the country will confront more problems. The government must not be a political base for a special party or group. Such things should be an agreement among all groups. Dabbagh stated these changes occurred to the response to Ayatollah Sistani’s message about general reformations and oppositions in different cities.
Concerning the reaction of Iraq Kurds to the change, Dabbagh said: reformations in Iraq cannot be done lonely. The government is for Iraq as whole and all should be satisfied with these changes, if not so, It will lead to failure. About positive or negative effects of these changes Dabbagh said we should see what the aim of deletion of these posts is, underestimating the role of a few people. He added: if you are going to destroy a building and rebuild it, it is required to prepare materials for it. Now government has announces that it will do some changes, but we should see it has required tools and plans to do these changes or not, and should be notices that it has been able to reach an agreement with other parties or not. These are questions that have to be answered.
Nazem Dabbagh in talk with Javan Press answered the different questions about ISIS and other concerns relating to the Region. What you will read is the results of this one-hour talk.
Nazem Dabbagh believes that the peace of Iraq has never been settled since after the occupation of the country by America and his alliance it has witnessed varieties of terrorist operations. Whenever America wants he support a dictator, to topple him and substitute him for another. Nevertheless the formation of ISIS has been the result of wrong policy of the west in support of Takfiri groups in the event of Afghanistan. When Washington saw Mubarak fell and Morsi was substituted it overthrew him and substituted another for him.
In Syria changes Ba’aths took an advantage of the opportunity to shape the Iraq and Syria unification. At this time the countries like Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar decided to topple Assad within 30 days. Maliki’s mistakes also helped ISIS to grow.
About taking revenge of Maliki’s government by let him alone against ISIS Dabbagh rejected and said: Mr. Maliki put aside many Sunnis from governmental positions and this caused they tended toward ISIS. Our silence in Mosul concern was not for to cooperate with ISIS. Furthermore he rejected Kurds taking advantage of ISIS event to be independence and added: the process of the work advanced in a way that Pishmerga forces showed the most resistance against ISIS and thus stayed in the areas under dispute.
Dabbagh added: our forces advanced around Mosul and settled in the east of this town. Dabbagh mentioned that to confront with ISIS we talked with Maliki many times before Mosul fell, but he did not care. Maliki did not tend to cooperate with Pishmerga to confront with ISIS so much. He said probably ISIS policy in attack to Kurdsitan region of Iraq aimed to confront Iraq and to prevent them to be independent. Since ISIS injuries are healed in Turkey and they have even given us a bullet to fight ISIS. Iran has been the first country giving Kurdistan military help.
About the independence of Kurdistan region Dabbagh said they desire independence but presently if this happens it will be harmful to Kurds. He also said: we know ourselves Arian and Iran as our second hometown. He added: the simple presence of Ebadi cannot help to solve the problems, but the thoughts should be changed. He also said: to prevent America from entering Iraq and the Kurdish region, sustainable relations should be shaped among Iran, the Kurdish region and Shia. In addition about Israel cooperation with the Region Dabbagh said: in our foreign policy we follow the central government of Iraq and also are not willing to have a relationship with Israel since it will cause the world Muslims hate us. About the oil cargo which was sold to Israel Dabbagh said: it was done by dealer and then transferred to Israel. Furthermore he continued: Israel supports Kurds’ independence but it will cause that Iraq, Iran and Turkey begin to be our inimical.
About the region’s action to mine and export oil without Central Government’s permission Dabbagh said: although we prefer to take our budget from the central government, since our budget has been cut, we have no idea but to excavate and export oil. Concerning the anti-Ba’ath rule in Iraq Dabbagh said that Nuri Al-Maliki not only has employed Ba’aths in state positions but he also did them in the Army of Iraq. At last he has known the security condition of Iraq good for Iranian companies to return, but the critical financial conditions is an obstacle for them to continue their job.
Concerning the changes in Kubani, Nazem Dabbagh had an interview with analysis-oriented news weekly of Seda whose important points follow:
The representative of KRG of Iraq in Iran said: 80 Iranian and Iraqi Kurdish prisoners will be transferred to Iraq and Kurdistan Region next week to serve their sentences.
Dabbagh in talk with the reporter of Fars News Agency Foreign Policy, mentioning, the vice-foreign minister, Hassan Ghashghawi’s travel to the Region of Iraq and his talk with the authorities of the Region including Jalal Talibani, Nechirvan Barezani the chief of The Judiciary and others said: according to widespread relations this travel is beneficial and pessimistic. About the broadening goes and comes especially on the behalf of Iranian authorities of Kurdistan Region of Iraq he showed hope.
Concerning the outcomes of this travel Dabbagh said: it has been to transfer 80 Iranian prisoners in the region to Iran and 9 Iraqi Kurdish ones in Iran to the Region to keep serving their sentences.
The representative of KRG of Iraq in Iran relating this said: this transfer will be done next week, this is the first list of prisoners and the second will soon be operational.
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